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Blossom Your Awesome Podcast On Purpose With Mabel Bachini

May 18, 2023 Sue Dhillon Season 1 Episode 133
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Blossom Your Awesome Podcast On Purpose With Mabel Bachini
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Blossom Your Awesome Podcast On Purpose With Mabel Bachini

Mabel Bachini is a career and transition coach. She helps people lead lives that are on purpose and on point with their ultimate fulfillment and purpose.

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Sue Dhillon:
Hi there. Today on the show, Mabel Bekini is here with us. Mabel, thank you so much for being here. Welcome to the show.

Mabel Bachini:
Thank you, Sue. I'm very excited to be here. I love your show, so happy to be here.

Sue Dhillon:
Oh my God, thank you so much. That means so much. Well, I love the work that you do and that you're doing. You are a career fulfillment coach. You're also a career transition coach. I love that. So talk to us about this. Give us the backstory in how and why you got into this line of work.

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah, so I I'm gonna go right from the beginning. I remember as a kid I remember being like a 10 year old and being really stressed about what I was gonna do with my life And I don't know if every 10 year old feels like that, but it was just this thing of oh There's this puzzle that's really important to me, and I haven't solved it So I went to business school because I liked receipts and I liked doing little sweet shops when I was a kid and then charging my dad like ridiculous interest rates when he bought sweets for me, that kind of stuff. So I was like, okay, I'll go to business school. And all throughout business school, I just kind of had this feeling of, this isn't my environment, this isn't really my people, but I didn't know what was. So. I got a job outside of business school. I went and worked in Bulgaria for a few years, working in business development over there. And I just remember having this feeling of, you know, this isn't right. I feel like this really passionate person, but I don't feel confident in my job. I feel like I'm not myself. I feel like I'm hiding. And so I just didn't know what to do. And I started, I'd spend the whole day at work and then I'd come home and I'd... spider diagram, things that I love, things that energised me and just really tried to figure out what is it that I want to do with my life and I started following things that excited me, following hobbies and just kind of just following things that interested me for the sake of them interesting me and trying to not be too kind of production focused with how I spent my time and eventually I quit my job. I moved back to England and on the way to moving back to England I was like okay let's do a little trip via Ukraine, let's go spend some time in Ukraine, do a little travel thing there and I was listening to this audiobook and this woman talked about coaching and I was like oh my goodness that's a job, you can get paid to do this and it was really just this light bulb moment of that's what I want to do and to me I've always been a very purpose focused person and a person... for whom work is very meaningful to me. And so it just felt like the right thing to do to focus a business on helping other people find real meaning and fulfillment and joy in their work because you spend a lot of time at your work. And so it can be really challenging if you're not enjoying that time. So it really was just this light bulb moment. And then I was like, okay, I wanna do that now. How the heck do you do that? Especially, you know, coming. Coming from England, it was just not a thing that you did. You got a nine to five job, you got a stable job. This was just, it just wasn't something that was kind of appreciated. So it took me a while to figure out how to do it. I trained, I went to coaching school, did a lot of studying, traveled around to learn about fulfillment and then started the business in 2020. So. heavy pandemic time and I'm still here doing the same thing now.

Sue Dhillon:
Oh my God, I love that story and I love this idea of, you know, I feel like people don't acknowledge or don't realize because I feel like we all have these aha moments, right?

Mabel Bachini:
Mmm.

Sue Dhillon:
But I feel like a lot of times people don't really realize or they overlook that aha.

Mabel Bachini:
Yes, yeah, and it's, it's very interesting, isn't it? You know, the difference between kind of having those moments, whether it's kind of on the subconscious or the conscious level, but having those moments and then deciding to live those moments and do something with them because that's, that's scary. And I, I see this in a lot of my clients that you have to face a lot of fears to go out and do what you want to do. But I so agree, I feel like the world, if we're open to it, the world is allowing us to have these moments all the time, it's just about how much we recognise them and do something with them.

Sue Dhillon:
Mm-hmm. Oh, I love that Mabel. That is so just right up my alley in alignment with how

Mabel Bachini:
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Sue Dhillon:
I think, you know? Because I really believe, I mean, I'm always having these conversations with people about like signs and symbols and the universe is listening and

Mabel Bachini:
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Sue Dhillon:
it really, and the more you kind of dial into that, the more signs and symbols you receive.

Mabel Bachini:
It's so true. And for me, the wisdom of the body, it's why I really, really like mindfulness. One, I think mindfulness is this incredible tool to help us get through life, like manage stress through life, see the joy in life, and then see the wisdom in our body, kind of the inner knowing that we can access from sensations in our body.

Sue Dhillon:
And let me just on that note add that Mabel is also a mindfulness teacher,

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah.

Sue Dhillon:
which I just love because that's also right up my alley. I do that as well. But here's what's really cool. Mabel I feel like, or I know rather, you know, that awareness that you had around that aha moment, right, comes from the practice of mindfulness.

Mabel Bachini:
Yes, yeah. And yeah, when I was, so I had this realization, okay, this is what I wanna do. And then, you know, I think I have this with my clients too. You kind of, you have that idea, but it's messy and you have no idea what kind of exactly it's gonna turn into. So when I first quit my job, I was like, okay, I wanna travel around the world and write a book about how to have a fulfilled life. And I'm as a dyslexic, I'm very dyslexic. And so as a dyslexic person, it's kind of weird to say I wanna go and write a book. But I was travelling around the world and I was travelling around India and I was working with this teacher here and he said there's a real difference between realising something and just knowing something and to kind of realise it, to feel it is, yeah, is a really big difference so what you just said really reminded me of that.

Sue Dhillon:
I love that, that is so beautiful. And now, you know what I think is so cool because you're really, I can sense and feel that you embody what you do and what you teach and what you help people with. You're like passionate and you kind of light up at the thought of helping people transition. So what is like the most common thing? Because I find like so many people are not happy in their careers, right? So what keeps... people from saying, hey, you know what? I quit and I'm gonna go do this whole other thing.

Mabel Bachini:
Oh yes, okay, I have a strong opinion on this. So I believe that we kind of have these two different parts of us. We have this woman called Martha Beck, who I really, really love. And she talks about we have this essential self and then we have this socialized self. So we have who we really are deep down inside, who we were when we were babies, who we are in our soul. And then we have this socialized self, which is who, through our upbringing, through what we've been exposed to, it's kind of the person who we feel like we should be. So one of the things that I really, really believe holds people back from taking that step to explore who they are, to figure out what kind of career is going to really fill them up and make their life feel meaningful is kind of being trapped in that socialized self of the should. I should have a job that people respect the title of. I should have a job that is directly related to my degree, otherwise my degree will be a waste of time. I should have a 9 to 5, I should be having a stable paycheck, all of this stuff. So to me it's really that kind of getting stuck in the should, because it really just... kind of traps you, it makes your box so much smaller, your box of opportunity so much smaller.

Sue Dhillon:
And what is your guidance? I really thought so insightful. What is your guidance to like step outside of that box and start thinking in a more liberating way?

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah, I think it's such a good question. And when I have when I have clients come and work with me, they kind of just stick with the box metaphor. I suppose they come at all different levels of being really deep down inside it being kind of open to changing and being like, okay, I'm ready. I'm ready to go and do the thing that I really want to do, even though it's scary and all that kind of stuff. But to me, it's about discovering who you really are. And if we've kind of been in this socialized self, ever since we were kids, which this is almost taking a side track now, but as kids, you develop that for your own safety, because you don't have control of your life in lots of ways. And so it's actually a really clever protective mechanism to follow what other people tell you you should. But then when we're adults, we don't need to do that so much because we have more control over our lives. So unwinding the socialized self to discover who we really are, to me is the key to creating a career that is gonna feel really fulfilling to us. And honestly, I think a great way to start that is by exploring what you love doing when you were a kid before all of these shoulds came to you. So... What did you love doing as a kid? And then why did you love it? So I really loved playing outside in nature, for example. And then, okay, what did you love about it? Why I just, I love being physically active and that, oh, you know, why did you have being physically, and just kind of really taking that question, but then just going so deep into, well, what was it that really lit you up? about those memories from being a child. To me, that can be a really nice kind of easy access point into the, I call it like the unsocializing or the unwinding of this social should self.

Sue Dhillon:
Yeah, now, you know, that's so just insightful there because it's sad how, you know, these societal norms, right, it's hard to kind

Mabel Bachini:
Mm-hmm.

Sue Dhillon:
of really think for yourself or in a way or step outside of the box and do something that's not, you know, that might be risky or whatever. So what do you think? is do you have some guidance there for just taking that plunge, right? Like

Mabel Bachini:
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Sue Dhillon:
if you're on the fence, like is there a mindset shift? What needs to happen?

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah, kind of if you're on the fence of going for it, is that right? You're on

Sue Dhillon:
Yes.

Mabel Bachini:
the fence of going for it and following something you really love. So I think when I switched careers, I took the plunge, I left my job with no plan of what to do next. And I had saved up money, so I had saved up money to not work and do all of that stuff. So I tend to advise people. If they have a load of savings, then they can take the plunge, they can quit their job and spend time figuring out what they want to do. But actually that's not the only way to do it. And there's a lot of power in taking very small steps every day and just building one little small step every day. And so what I think is really beautiful about that is you don't have to have a huge savings fund up, you know, upturn your life for six months and do all of this kind of crazy jumping off a cliff stuff. to switch careers and find something that you love. So I think one really important thing is getting comfortable with new things for yourself. So if you are going into a career, there's gonna be so much new stuff, and there's also gonna be so much failing because new stuff means stuff that you haven't done before, so it's not gonna always work out the first time. So getting really comfortable with new things and getting really comfortable with failure. So... For example, I take clients through a coaching program when they want to change careers. And one thing that I ask them to do is just to take up a new hobby because it just gets you comfortable with learning a new skill, being in a new environment, being around maybe different people than you've been around before and just getting out of your normal. So that's kind of an action step is just, you know, just. get used to normal things. So that might be, you know, going to finding a meetup group with people who inspire you and going to that meetup group. I think also being surrounded by the kind of people that will inspire you is important. I think I notice a lot people who are stuck in a job that is unfulfilling to them. they don't have that support network of other people there to say, yeah, follow your dreams, or like, yeah, we get why you love that thing that's really important to you, we love it too. So finding that space where there are other people who connect to what you're really passionate about and who inspire you to follow what makes you really excited. So if you don't have those people in your life already, finding places where you can meet them.

Sue Dhillon:
I love that Mabel, that is such great practical guidance, you know, like applicable things that people can start doing right now. And I love this idea of, you know, getting uncomfortable or trying

Mabel Bachini:
Mmm.

Sue Dhillon:
something new and stretching yourself because that just opens the gateway to possibilities for people, right? And affirms like, hey, okay, maybe I can go do this whole other. thing and make a career out of it. So I love that. I think more people need your guidance or that guidance.

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah, and I love that. I love what you just said and how, you know, you can get uncomfortable without making things so scary that when you wake up in the morning, you say, actually, I'm not gonna do that. I'm just gonna go back to bed. Kind of what's that level in the middle of, this is uncomfortable and yet I can do it. And taking that step and then the next week, making it a bit more uncomfortable and then the next. And just. knowing that you can grow without having to be in this kind of absolute danger zone of uncertainty, if that makes sense.

Sue Dhillon:
Mm-hmm. I love that. Now, let me ask you, because I believe this to be true, but you do this for a living, you work with people. I find that people who are super passionate about their work or just go for it, they are so like... laser focused and don't really have these external forces or the negative, you know, scary thoughts come in. Like they don't even allow that, right? They're willing to like do the unthinkable and they're gonna

Mabel Bachini:
Yes.

Sue Dhillon:
do it and nothing's gonna stop them.

Mabel Bachini:
Yes, yeah, I love that. And it's, I think maybe you said scary thoughts or something similar. They, oh, just stop you from doing what you really wanna do, right? And so I think a lot of it is identifying those thoughts, noticing those thoughts, part of mindfulness, you're noticing those thoughts, not berating yourself for having those thoughts. but going, okay, I'm a human and I'm gonna try something scary. Like my safety instinct as a human is saying, don't do that scary thing, stay safe. So I know that naturally this is gonna be scary for me. And then reframing that belief into something that is empowering to you. So I think that these people who really follow what they want to follow, they have gotten really good at noticing those scary thoughts and reframing them. into a thought that is empowering, that they can wake up in the morning and say that thought to them that is empowering and motivates them to go and follow the thing they really wanna follow.

Sue Dhillon:
Mm-hmm. And then in being in like a state of greater presence with the passion, right?

Mabel Bachini:
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Sue Dhillon:
Kind of leaning more into that, focusing on that

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah.

Sue Dhillon:
and just, right?

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah, oh, and I see so much with that of kind of finding your passion, finding that place where you naturally go into flow state where you naturally feel like the biggest most expansive version of yourself. And, and I think finding that, you know, some people call it your zone of genius. To me, it's the place that lights you up that makes you feel most like yourself. I think to find, discover those skills, those states of being in yourself is such a big part of it. Because for example, I went through school and then my first job as someone who was dyslexic, it was very challenging to keep up with this really kind of school curriculum and then career where the bedrock was written stuff. And now in coaching, it's a lot of talking and a lot of communicating and connecting. And that's a place that it took me a while to find, but now I'm here and I kind of, I'm in that passion. I get to be, as you said, kind of hyper-focused in it.

Sue Dhillon:
I love that. That is just, you know, and again, Mabel, it speaks volumes to your passion and you embodying, you know, the wisdom that you're sharing and imparting on your clients. I think that's so awesome. Now,

Mabel Bachini:
Thank you.

Sue Dhillon:
you know, let me ask you, I find I'm always so disheartened when I hear people say they don't know what they're passionate about and even if

Mabel Bachini:
Mm,

Sue Dhillon:
you

Mabel Bachini:
yeah.

Sue Dhillon:
aren't able, right? And I actually was having a conversation with somebody the other day about this where, you know, they were saying, it seems like very few people actually end up doing something that they just absolutely love, right?

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah, I think it's about 20% or even less of Americans, they say they're passionate about their jobs. So that's 80% of people who are not.

Sue Dhillon:
Wow. And I feel like there's, it's not because those people don't have passions or things

Mabel Bachini:
Mmm.

Sue Dhillon:
that they could follow. What do you think it is? What is it? Fear? What is it?

Mabel Bachini:
Ooh, I think so that's such an interesting question. To me, it's a few things. One, to find your passion takes exploring. So a lot of career coaches who I follow and I agree with, many of them say don't follow your passion because your passions are only the things you've been exposed to so far. So for example, I didn't even know that coaching was a thing until I started getting out there. And I think I was around 23 when I figured it out. So, you know, if you, someone would have said to me, uh, at 21, follow your passion. That would have been my passion so far at that point in my life. So it probably would have been like improv theater, something like that. Um, so your passion can take time to find sometimes and it takes exploring and, you know, say for example, if you grew up in a family that is very, um, I'm going to make a random example. If you grew up in a family, it's very analytical, but you are very creative. You might just not have been exposed to passions that are very creative yet. And maybe that's the thing that you want to pursue, but you just haven't been exposed to it. So it takes time to go out and figure out what your passion is. And then I also feel like we have to be really brave and... go almost against society to follow that thing that we're really passionate about. Because I think a lot of the time, society, our friends and family encourage us to do something that will be safe for us. And sometimes we have to take risks to go and do something where we are gonna be ultimately really passionate and very fulfilled about.

Sue Dhillon:
Hmm, and I love this idea. I think that's such a great insight to say that people don't, they have to explore, right?

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah, yeah.

Sue Dhillon:
To find their passion. And it's like people, you graduate when you're 21 or 22 and you get this degree and you don't really know at that age, like you're at 18 when you

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah.

Sue Dhillon:
graduate high school, what you wanna do for the rest of your life. Right? And, but I think that's amazing to suggest, cause I feel like a lot of people just give up at, oh, I don't know what I'm passionate about. But it's like, hey, well, how about you explore? How about you try out new things and discover something that'll, like you say, bring you to life or, you know, just light you up inside.

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah, I love that. And I so agree, you know, we basically choose what we want to study at university between in England anyway, between the ages of like 16 to 18, when we've not even lived life as an adult yet. We've lived life with our parents looking after us. And yeah, I just so agree, you know, and kind of giving yourself grace or kind of being kind to yourself to say, okay, maybe I'm 21 and and I don't know what my passion is yet, or maybe I'm 30 or 35 and I don't know what my passion is yet. And that's completely okay. And giving yourself, yeah, giving yourself grace, being kind on yourself.

Sue Dhillon:
And now, Mabel, how important, you know, again, I'm just always so disheartened when people don't have, like even if it's not a job that you love and you're super passionate about, but

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah.

Sue Dhillon:
like a hobby or just something that really

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah.

Sue Dhillon:
feels, you know, wonderful. So like how important and necessary is that, do you believe

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah.

Sue Dhillon:
to like...

Mabel Bachini:
Oof. Yeah. I mean, you, when you meet someone, I feel like it's quite easy, or you can notice it quite quickly, whether that is a person who is oozing themselves and oozing life and oozing ideas because they are getting to do things that excite them and that spark their creativity, you kind of notice those people versus people who are a bit more mono and maybe a bit more trapped inside a kind of a smaller box than they wish they could be. So to me I think it's so important and I think part of that is allowing ourselves to play and allowing ourselves to follow things. even if they aren't productive, even if they don't get a job done. And I think especially in adulthood, life becomes a lot about what you have to do. Um, you have to go to work, you have to clean the house. Uh, even if you don't have kids, people might think you have to work out. Uh, you have to do your life admin and we don't prioritize times to just. enjoy and be creative and explore what makes us passionate, I believe.

Sue Dhillon:
Mm, this is so true and so necessary. Now, I wanna talk to you about, you have got something, this is your own methodology here, the Career Compass method. I know you probably

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah.

Sue Dhillon:
can't share the whole thing with us, but can

Mabel Bachini:
Hehehe

Sue Dhillon:
you give us a little glimpse into what that is?

Mabel Bachini:
Oh, I would love to. Yes, it's my baby. So I did studying as a life coach with a focus on career transition. I traveled around India, learning about these different ways that you can feel fulfilled. Learned about different philosophies, like a key guy, which people, it's kind of relatively popular. Japanese philosophy. studied design thinking, which is like a kind of Silicon Valley innovation process, and used those tools to clarify what I wanted to do with my life. And through doing that, this process just emerged. And then I was like, okay, there's this process, it kind of goes like this, you kind of explore who you are. And you you work on your mindset to be strong and be able to do what you want to do. You explore who you are. You look at all the puzzle pieces and you kind of see what career those puzzle pieces make. Instead of just going on LinkedIn and going, oh, there's a job. I think I could make myself fit that. Putting your puzzle pieces together of your life and kind of showing what kind of career that makes without any external influence, just you. And then going out and looking for the careers that fit you. instead of the other way. So instead of trying to like fit your square peg in a round hole, finding the hole that fits your peg. It's such a strange analogy. So I made this method from these different things and then I continued researching it and continued studying what other career coaches do and continued working with this method with my clients over a number of years. And it just has developed into this process that I love so much because you have clarity, you have a plan, but you get to get career clarity, but you also really get clarity on who you are and how you want to live your life. And I think that's so important because I think sometimes people view career as this completely external thing from your life. So have a career and have a personal life. And to me, those two things are really interrelated because, one, I don't want a career where I have to feel like someone else when I go to work. I want a career where I get to feel like me at work. And two, I want a career that supports the kind of lifestyle that I have. So for me, that means a career where I can go part-time when I have kids. It means a career where I can be flexible and travel back home to England when I want to. So yeah, just continued, have continued working with this method and continued just going, this is great, I love this. And have been using it with clients for the past few years.

Sue Dhillon:
That sounds so awesome, Mabel. And I think this idea, you're bringing so much to the table here with your training in inner fulfillment and the mindfulness, right? You're incorporating that and you're taking this kind of very holistic, but like whole approach, right? Like there's this wholeness element to it where it's like Well, and it's funny, you know, because people a lot of times say, Oh, no, my career, I'm not my career, I'm not this, but we bring it home with us. Right. You're it is you. And so I think that's so powerful to say, okay, let me really figure out who I am and then find something in alignment with that.

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah, you've summarized it so well because, you know, I really believe having a fulfilling career takes a lot of work. And, you know, if you don't want to do the work, then that's not for me to judge you because it's work, it's mindset work, it's discovery work, it takes time. But the rewards are so great once you do it because you spend about a third of your life working. When you're an adult, you spend the majority of your time awake working. And so, you know, this idea that we might live for two out of the seven days in a week, to me is like a little bit crazy.

Sue Dhillon:
Yeah, it really, you know, it's interesting how we, the stuff we fall for, like

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah!

Sue Dhillon:
get fed and abide by and believe, but I love your out of the box thinking now, you know, if there is advice for people out there, what would your advice be? I know we've kind of already touched on this, but just what other really practical advice and guidance do you have for people who

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah,

Sue Dhillon:
are kind of stuck in struggle?

Mabel Bachini:
yeah, that's a great question. So the first one is kind of start exploring things that just make you excited just for the sake of exploring them. So, you know, I really think if you are drawn to go and do a hula hoop class, go and do a hula hoop class. because you might not want to be a professional hula hooper, but going there, you might learn these, you might discover these other puzzle pieces to your life. So you might discover that, you know, example, you love being around a kind of empowering group of women, or you might discover that you love using your body and your desk job right now just feels really tough, or that you want to be more creative or you like performance. So just following anything that you are naturally drawn to and just diving into it. and then that might lead you onto something else and something else. So that I think is one of the most important steps. Another one, kind of three pop into my head, another one is just noticing those scary thoughts that are stopping you from taking action. So just noticing when you get that thought of, oh, I'm not gonna do that because I'd fail at it anyway, or, oh, if I switch jobs and everyone's gonna think I'm a failure, just. Just step one, just noticing them. And then if you want to go on to, and people can look this up, they can research how to reframe unhelpful beliefs or reframe limiting beliefs. So they can look up the process to that. But number one, just noticing. Can already increase your awareness and increase your chances of acting differently. And then the third one. I always say is to not get disheartened if you go to Indeed and you think all of the jobs suck and you think that that means you have no career prospects because most of the jobs aren't on Indeed anyway. It's like not more than 30% of all jobs are on Indeed. Most jobs don't make it onto job sites. And now with the way that we live our life, you can kind of like how you have, you can create your own job and you can be so creative. So there are so many options to find something that really excites you and to pursue that. So if you look on job sites and feel disheartened, don't worry, that's because you're only looking at a really small percentage of the jobs out there.

Sue Dhillon:
Oh, I love that Mabel. And you know,

Mabel Bachini:
Thanks

Sue Dhillon:
you

Mabel Bachini:
for watching!

Sue Dhillon:
say kind of like you have, but kind of like you have as well.

Mabel Bachini:
Yeah!

Sue Dhillon:
Like Mabel and I are examples of this and it can be done, right?

Mabel Bachini:
Yes, and it's so cool. I was talking to someone about this today, how I really felt like there's two ways you can do careers. You can apply to the jobs that are out there, or you can meet people, you can be social, you can create networks of other people that inspire you, and you can create jobs. You can pitch ideas to people and they'll pay you for it. It's just very cool how creative you can be and you can do those things. on the side of a full-time job as that, as you know, as you let that thing grow, you don't have to be a millionaire to pursue what you really want to pursue. And you just have to be brave, be open to learning and do the work, I think.

Sue Dhillon:
Oh my God, I love it, Mabel. So a couple of things. One, you have been so awesome, so insightful. You've had so many great practical tips and insights that I think people are going to love. There's going to be so many takeaways from all that you've shared. I thank

Mabel Bachini:
Aww.

Sue Dhillon:
you so much for your time today. You've been wonderful.

Mabel Bachini:
Thank you so much. This has been just the most lovely conversation. There is nothing I love more, given the job that I do, than sitting down with someone else who is passionate about people living life in a way where they get to feel really alive and they get to experience all of this joy that we have around us. We just have to kind of open our eyes to see it. So I've enjoyed this so much.

Sue Dhillon:
Wow, Mabel, you're a doll. Thank you so much. Now, in closing, you've already said so many wonderful and amazing, awesome things, but in closing, if there were just one message, your hope for everyone out there, what would that be?

Mabel Bachini:
for people to know that they are good enough, they are good enough, they can do it, they can have a career that they really love and when you find that thing that lights you up, that makes you feel like you're in flow, that thing that you feel so passionate about. you're gonna be a million times better at that thing than you are at this thing that you don't really care about that you're doing for your day job. And so if doing that day job is your marker of being good enough, this is how I felt in my old job. You know, I felt, well, I don't feel very confident in my old job, so maybe I'm not gonna be good enough at what I really wanna do. Don't let that discourage you because when you find that thing that you love, that you want to explore, that you want to keep learning about, that's where your potential is and that's where you can be so amazing.

Sue Dhillon:
Mmm. That was an awesome close. Mabel, thank you so much.

Mabel Bachini:
Thank you, this was wonderful.

Sue Dhillon:
You've been awesome. Thank you.